Question:
How to replace my home alarm surface mounted door contacts (twin cable yellow/blue) with a PIR, thanks.?
Bing Bong
2010-09-20 13:52:16 UTC
Door mounted contacts were on the original front door but I have replaced the door, so looking to have PIR to activate and deactivate alarm on entry/exit, still use key pad though. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks
Three answers:
KevLEC
2010-09-21 09:02:46 UTC
With just twin (2 core) cable it cannot be done,PIR detectors require +ve & -ve supply,tamper circuit,zone loop.

These 3 each require 2 cores,so 6 core needed.

You should just try to refit or renew door contacts,in my experience they are more reliable as no false triggering from pets or sunlight etc.

If not possible,then remove cable & wire new PIR from panel.



For some reason I cannot reply to your mail,anyway,as its a 2core there is no tamper,just disarm & it should be ok to alter/renew.
Peter Rogers
2010-09-21 13:08:12 UTC
Several thoughts here. The wiring advice from the other respondent looks correct, so could be a non-starter. You could always use a wireless PIR, but would need the wireless receiver added to your system (if it does not have one already). Most systems being installed today use wireless sensors, for flexibility, ease of troubleshooting, etc.



Nothing is simpler (or more reliable) than a door contact - and it works when the system is armed in either stay or away mode. Most motions are not active in the stay mode (since you don't want to set off your own alarm). That means in the stay mode (when you are home at night), someone could open the door and your system would not trigger the alarm. If the motion is programmed to be active even in the stay mode, you could set if off just by walking near that door. Also not good.



If it were my system, I would go wireless and add a wireless door contact on the front door. Some can even be recessed (we sell them) so that they are completely hidden.



By the way, chances are your system also uses your vulnerable phone line to communicate. You should check out cellular monitoring - much safer.And while you are at it, look into interactive features, like remote arm/disarm, notifications, apps, etc. Alarm systems have come a long way!



Good luck.
anonymous
2010-09-21 21:29:31 UTC
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Hello



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